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Deterministic outcomes based on codeâ€Š - â€Šthat is the value (Antwort)

Zarathustra — Sun, 19 Jun 2016 07:29:20 +0000

There is something far bigger than The Dao, or even Ethereum, at stake here: the very idea of immutable smart contracts. The core promise of smart contracts was brilliantly articulated by The DAO. They are designed to operate â€œsolely with the steadfast iron will of unstoppable code.â€ The core idea here is that the code is the contract, and that it does not require or allow human intervention or interpretation. It is automatic and â€œautonomousâ€. Deterministic outcomes based on codeâ€Šâ€”â€Šthat is the value.

This value, of deterministic outcomes is 100% dependant on being able to run on a protocol that can be trusted to operate according to deterministic rules known in advance. That is what Ethereum must be. What is being now suggested is to go and change the protocol level rules, retroactively, because of an exploit discovered in one contract on the application level. To do so, would destroy the very trust that makes all contracts on the application level possible.

https://medium.com/@EdanYago/too-big-to-fail-is-failure-guaranteed-9b00a50faef1#.dxz7mwmy9

Gut, daß so etwas jetzt passiert und nicht im Betrieb von slock.it (Antwort)

Dirk-MV — Sat, 18 Jun 2016 13:29:04 +0000

Es werden sicherlich noch einige bugs auftauchen.
Nebenbei hat DAO bis jetzt nur die Steigerung der letzten 3 Wochen verloren, Ether nicht mal das. Im selben Zeitraum ist Bitcoin von 470 auf 750 gestiegen.
mfg

Sehe ich genauso (oT) (Antwort)

Fabio — Sat, 18 Jun 2016 11:21:58 +0000

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Der Hacker hat recht (oT) (Antwort)

Zarathustra — Sat, 18 Jun 2016 11:13:40 +0000

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Nachricht vom DAO-"Hacker" (Antwort)

Onkel S. — Sat, 18 Jun 2016 11:08:45 +0000

Hi Fabio,

jetzt wird es so richtig "lustig" ...

http://pastebin.com/CcGUBgDG

Grüße,
S.

Black Fridao (Antwort)

Onkel S. — Fri, 17 Jun 2016 18:20:23 +0000

Hi Fabio,

Gerade crasht die gerade noch gefeierte Slock.it DAO ins Bodenlose:

http://www.businessinsider.de/dao-hacked-ethereum-crashing-in-value-tens-of-millions-al...

hier noch ein interessanter Artikel zum Thema ...

http://hackingdistributed.com/2016/06/17/thoughts-on-the-dao-hack/

Grüße,
S.

Vermutlich werden auch Crypto-Kartoffeln nicht so heiß gegessen, wie sie gekocht werden! ;) (oT) (Antwort)

mabraton — Fri, 17 Jun 2016 12:27:35 +0000

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Ein paar weiterführende Links dazu (Antwort)

Prikopa — Fri, 17 Jun 2016 11:01:53 +0000

Erklärung: DAO - 140 Mio. Crowdfunding
http://www.zeit.de/digital/internet/2016-05/blockchain-dao-crowdfunding-rekord-ethereum

Matt Levine (ist immer lesenswert) bereits im Mai
http://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2016-05-17/blockchain-company-wants-to-reinvent-...

"We pay bailouts to banks then leave them invest in digital garbage" https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/digital-asset-sees-ibm-goldman-sachs-join-as-investors-... â€¦ "banksters are addicted to ecstasy"

Hinweis und Vergleich zu NXT
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1388514.0

Diskussion
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11921216

Update von
https://blog.ethereum.org/2016/06/17/critical-update-re-dao-vulnerability/
(man beachte die 10 Mio Grenze, ...)

#DAOmaggedon

Fabio — Fri, 17 Jun 2016 10:10:30 +0000

Gerade crasht die gerade noch gefeierte Slock.it DAO ins Bodenlose:

http://www.businessinsider.de/dao-hacked-ethereum-crashing-in-value-tens-of-millions-al...

In einer Telegram Group kommentiert ein Bitcoiner:

"This is decentralized command calling all decentralized nodes. Come in all decentralized nodes. I just wanted to give you an update from decentralized command. Our decentralized commander is having a rather hard day because a contract was sent out to all of you and it has a typo in it. It was meant to say DAO, but instead it said DOA. We would like all decentralized nodes to stop what they are doing and await instructions from decentralized command as to what you should do about this problem. Please also contact all your decentralized supporters, and ask them to be patient while we work to create a decentralized solution which we will send out to the decentralized nodes. We thank you for your dedication and support of our decentralized approach. We are always not here to not help you."